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What to EAT and What to AVOID for Optimal Family Heath - Episode 108

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This week, Jeffrey Smith joins Liz Carlile on her weekly podcast, Motherhood Unstressed, to discuss the world-altering effects of genetic engineering, gene editing, glyphosate's relationship to leaky gut, and the very real health benefits of getting your family off GMOs.

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Speaker 2: (00:08)
Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm so glad that you're here as always, and I'm really excited that you're tuning into this episode. It could be life-changing if you don't already know this information, because I'm speaking with award-winning documentary film director and best-selling author Jeffrey Smith, and he's joining me to discuss his latest film. Don't let the gene out of the bottle. Now Jeffrey employs a Hippocratic view on food and medicine. I know, you know, the quote, let food be thy medicine and medicine, be thy food. And in this interview, he's explaining the world altering effects of genetic engineering, glyphosate's relationship to leaky gut, and the very real health benefits of going organic and getting your family off GMOs. I think we all know people who have gut issues, especially leaky gut, and with no idea what's causing it. This episode is going to unveil the reason that so many people struggle with digestive health. And my hope is that it empowers you so that you know exactly what to feed your family, what to avoid so that they grow into healthy, smart, strong adults. Um, and, and you keep your health, uh, at optimal levels as well. So I hope you enjoy this episode. If you do, please share it with a friend and please leave us a review on apple podcasts. Thank you.

Speaker 2: (01:25)
Well, hello, Jeffrey. Welcome to the show. I'm so glad that you're here.

Speaker 3: (01:29)
Thank you. It's great to be here.

Speaker 2: (01:30)
Yeah. I'm going to start us off with a bigger question, but I think it's important to kind of dive right in and it's a great way to get the conversation going. Why are GMOs so dangerous?

Speaker 3: (01:42)
Well, I did a movie where I looked at people who switched onto organic food and kids who are on the spectrum were no longer on the spectrum. People who are infertile couples, who are in fertile, got children, people who had digestive problems, brain fog, allergies, et cetera, et cetera, but we're able to reverse those conditions. Now it may seem like a Hocus Pocus, but the doctors say that they are seeing the exact same effects in their practices every day. And the scientists explain exactly why the combination of the genetically engineered crops and the Roundup herbicide that is sprayed on most GMOs attacks and dismantles or damages, the fundamental foundations of our health. And we can talk about that from the microbiome to the hormones, to the neuro-transmitters, to the mitochondria, to the leaky gut, all of those things. So it actually is an amazing revelation that when people realize they can simply step out of it by eating organic and their life changes, it's shocking. So in the film secret ingredients, we have doctors who say many of their patients switched to organic and their immune disease symptoms went away and their brain fog disappeared. And then they cheat on their diet and it all comes back. And then they realize how important it is to avoid GMOs and the Roundup sprayed on them.

Speaker 2: (03:11)
God, I mean, with this evidence out there with people, with all of these stories where they're able to get pregnant and you know, their kids are getting off of the spectrum, which is insane just as that, why isn't the government doing more to protect us? Who's really behind, I should say the U S government. Why isn't the us government banning GMOs?

Speaker 3: (03:30)
Well, the U S government has been marching lockstep with the biotech industry since actually the Reagan era. Um, under the first Bush administration, they told the FDA, for example, to come up with a way to get GMOs out there quickly to promote them. And so the FDA beautifully created a new position for a person that would oversee the policy on GMOs created that position for Monsanto's outside attorney. Monsanto's the biggest GMO company. So when he was in the position in charge, the policy came out that he had essentially written saying, we're not aware of any significant difference between GMOs and non GMOs. No testing needed, no labeling needed. You don't even have to tell the government if you want to put a GMO in the food supply. So years later, when we looked at documents from the FDA made public from a lawsuit, we realized the whole thing was a fraud.

Speaker 3: (04:26)
The overwhelming consensus among the scientists working at the agency was exactly the opposite. That GMOs were different and dangerous and needed to be tested before they were released into the food supply. The overwhelming evidence since then has supported the FDA scientists concerns, but the FDA still remains basically mandated to promote GMOs. It's one of their explicit instructions. And one of the FDA commissioner or deputy commissioners actually did a PowerPoint saying here's the two goals of the FDA secure, safe food and drugs, and to promote biotechnology. So we can't rely on the government to protect us. So we have to make decisions every day. But once you've made the transition, once you realized which foods work for you, then the heavy stuff, the hard stuff is over. And then you get to enjoy the ride.

Speaker 2: (05:21)
Wow. That's incredible. How, how instead you was, are GMOs in our food supply. Like you said, I mean, it's everywhere. You don't even have to label it, you know, to the mom going to the store, buying food for her family. How does she know what to buy if nothing's labeled?

Speaker 3: (05:36)
Well, I keep saying organic and I say it for two reasons. One organic is not allowed to use GMOs sometimes there's contamination, but not usually not very much, but you see GMOs are not the only problem that I've been studying for 25 years, most GMOs or produced by Monsanto because Monsanto so rounder. And so they created Roundup ready, soy corn, cotton, canola, sugar beets, and alfalfa to be sprayed with Roundup in the field and not die. Normally Roundup will kill all of the plants, but it doesn't kill the genetically engineered plants, but the Roundup gets absorbed into those plans into the food product and we eat it. So we have the GMOs on one side and the Roundup on the other. Now Roundup is also sprayed on non GMOs just before harvest to drive them down and to kill them and to force fast ripening, the grains, oatmeal wheat, the beans, the lentils, the mung beans.

Speaker 3: (06:37)
It's also sprayed on citrus orchards. It's sprayed in vineyards to keep the rows clean. So it's in wine, it's in orange juice. Now I can, I will be happy to explain to you and your listeners, why avoiding it is pretty critical. It's amazing how much damage Roundup can do. Many people are aware of the Roundup trials that are taking place, where it was determined by the jury to be contributing to the plaintiff's cancer. The who declared he was a probable human carcinogen, but that's only one of many things. When you look at the, for example, the epidemiological charts looking at autism or diabetes or heart disease or IBD, or all sorts of cancers, more than 30 diseases that people are very commonly aware of deaths from hypertension Parkinson's and Alzheimer's overweight, et cetera. You can look at a slope that becomes familiar because they all appear to be very, very similar and they move on the same slope as the introduction or the increased use of GMOs and Roundup in the U S food supply.

Speaker 3: (07:47)
Now I have to say, if all we had were those charts, it's not very strong, it's correlational. It doesn't prove causation, but in 150 lectures, I've asked audiences including about two dozen medical doc medical conferences. What did you notice or your patients notice when you switch to non-GMO or in some cases organic and the hands start doing it. And I say, okay, how many people notice digestive disorders? So many hands? How about brain fog? How about this? And it was very, very clear that it was a similar footprint in all of these. So we surveyed 3000, 256 people, and they reported getting better from the same 28 conditions in the same relative order with digestion, the top of 85%, all the way down to Parkinson's at the bottom. Now, if you look at the animal feeding studies, where they force feed GMOs or Roundup to these animals, then they suffer from these or these diseases or precursors.

Speaker 3: (08:44)
When you look at the cattle and the pigs and the dogs and cats that are switched to organic, they get better from these or similar conditions. In fact, these are conditions rose dramatically in the experience of not only pet owners and farmers, but the pediatricians, a good friend of mine, Michelle para, who said, I wrote the book, what's making our children sick. She learned about GMOs for me. And that was the, the alarm bell that went off because she said, oh my goodness, I'm being seen so many complicated new cases that we've never seen before. And she'd been a pediatrician for long before GMOs were introduced. So she took the kids off of the GMOs and the round, it put them on organic, they got better and the whole family started getting better from other conditions. So there's a lot of evidence now, especially now that we understand the actual modes of action and how one mode of action of Roundup can lead to sleep disorders or anxiety or depression, we can follow it through what it does to the gut bacteria, right up to the serotonin and melatonin and see how that functions. We can see how irritable bowel and other digestive disorders can be created from a GMOs or the Roundup. And so now we are equipped so that we're convincing tens of thousands of physicians to, to prescribe organic diets. And now they're telling us it's amazing.

Speaker 2: (10:10)
Wow. Wow. And I feel like more and more people are kind of coming around to this just because you see like the success of the gluten-free diet market, like you go into the grocery store and everything's gluten free. Is that related to the stuff that's being sprayed with glyphosate?

Speaker 3: (10:26)
You know, I was the first person, I think, to suggest that it was, I gave a press conference about gluten with Mary's nutcrackers and mark Hyman and others. And I, I called up a gluten guru. Uh, my friend who's now my friend, Tom O'Brien. I said, Tom, I'm told you're the best guy in gluten to talk to here's my theory. GMOs can cause leaky gut activate the immune system damage, the mitochondria damage, the microbiome and these things, I believe can preload the system to react to gluten. He says, you're absolutely right. And then we learn more. It can help block the digestive enzyme so that the proteins become less broken down all of these things. So I put out a white paper with his support and also Dr. Stephanie, some of the Senate from MIT, she then published an article with her colleague Lincoln glyphosate, which is the chief poison in Roundup directly to not only gluten sensitivity, but to celiac. So I interviewed her and I said, was there any, any symptom of gluten disorder or celiac that could not be explained by glyphosate? She says, no, it was amazing. And in glove and one of the 28 conditions that people report getting better from when they switched to organic is gluten sensitivity, as well as other allergies. In fact, more than 50% reported, reducing their allergies and food sensitivities in our survey.

Speaker 2: (11:53)
That's incredible. That's incredible. Like why isn't this front page news? Well, I think we all know why, but it's just so frustrating to me because it's like, it is the role of the government to protect its citizens, to keep us healthy so that this country can continue and be strong on the world stage. Is it just down to a money issue? Is it just down to, you know, the people in Monsanto having control at the FDA and you know, other other corporations to other pharmaceuticals is that, is that what's holding our health back and why you see so many young people overweight and struggling with their health

Speaker 3: (12:29)
Money is a key point. There's a, there is a game of corporate control and captured regulatory agencies that Monsanto and others play very well when Monsanto was looking to approve its genetically engineered bovine growth hormone, which is injected into cows to increase milk supply. The person who was in charge of policy was Michael Taylor. Monsanto's former attorney who later became Monsanto's vice president, who later became the us foods are under in the FDA, went back and forth between Monsanto and the FDA, the person who was in charge of the FDA approval process. Susan sension used to work for Monsanto as a contractor on bovine growth hormone, Margaret Miller worked for Monsanto doing the research on bovine growth hormone that said it was safe and then took a position in charge of a department at the FDA that evaluated her own research. But a former Monsanto scientist told me that three of his colleagues in the company reviewed the milk from cows treated with their genetically engineered bovine growth hormone, and found so much cancer support cancer, promoting hormone IGF one in the milk.

Speaker 3: (13:34)
If the three months Santo scientists refuse to drink milk after that, unless it was organic one bought his own cow. So if you look at the actual people, doing the research in real life in real time, real research, they won't touch it. If you look at what's published on Monsanto's behalf, it's rigged research where they say, oh, pasteurization kills a little bovine growth hormone. They had to, they had to pasteurize it 120 times long, longer than normal that didn't do and do it. So they added powdered hormone to the milk. 47 times the amount of existing hormone, then pasteurize it 120 times longer and said, oh, 90% is, is destroyed during pasteurization. And the FDA just parroted that I understand how Monsanto rigs its research. And I think the best example came recently. It was one of the few things I was not aware of that came out from the trial.

Speaker 3: (14:31)
It turns out that in order to get Roundup approved, they have to prove it doesn't get absorbed into the skin at sufficient amounts. And so they take human cadaver skin, dead bodies, take the skin and put the Roundup on it. And then they test it. And about 10% got into the skin, which is more than three times the allowable limit. So they, the law and did not tell the EPA, but they did. They Monsanto study what they did is they took the human skin, new human skin and they put it in an oven and baked it. You know what happens when you cook meat, it gets really tough and whatnot. And then that wasn't good enough. Then they froze that leather, like a human skin. And then they put the Roundup on and said, oh, hardly any absorption. And that's the numbers that they gave to the EPA to get Roundup approved.

Speaker 2: (15:19)
Oh my God. Well

Speaker 3: (15:21)
We know. Yes, exactly. And the former scientists, I mean, I scientist told me that he was spraying. Um, well, it's, it's a little elaborate. He was spraying Roundup. It got into his body just by spraying it. And he was able to test it and to verify it and we stopped spraying it. It was no longer in his body. So, so we know we want to avoid spraying Roundup. And most people don't, especially now that you hear it, people won't, but it's really important to avoid eating foods that are contained the contain Roundup or its active ingredient glyphosate. So on our, we have the names of the 12 GMO crops. We have a report listing all of the foods that have been tested with glyphosate, residues. You can sort, you can put it in order. You can see, you don't want to feed your kids oatmeal, unless it's organic. You don't want to serve them bread unless it's organic. Forget hummus, unless it's organic because the, I know, sorry, I know the reaction. I can feel the reaction of the audience.

Speaker 2: (16:30)
What am I going to eat?

Speaker 3: (16:32)
Well, the thing is, you know, people sometimes say, well, I can't afford organic. I've interviewed so many people who switched to organic and their, their medical bills dropped regular, then their extra, um, expenditures. But I say not only add your medical budget into your food budget, but add your philanthropy budget because you don't want the farm workers out there to be spraying Roundup. You want a healthy ecosystem. And if we have any chance to talk about what's happening to the environment from GMOs, it's worse than what's happening to human bodies.

Speaker 2: (17:05)
I would love to transition to that because I think one of the biggest arguments from the administration from, you know, GMO supporters is that, you know, we need GMOs that they're Hardy and that we can feed the planet is what they say. So how would you address that?

Speaker 3: (17:18)
Well, first of all, GMOs don't increase average yield. There was a side-by-side study in Rodale Institute with soy and corn and GMO soy and corn. And the yield was the same, except in times of drought and the organic did better. So it was able to survive, but the organic had less inputs. No, none of the synthetic synthetic chemicals less need for water. In addition, GMOs increased use of chemicals. They increase the reliance of farmers, um, the major seed suppliers and the chemical producers. So it works for the industry, but not for farmers. There was the biggest study in the world on how to feed the world, sponsored by the UN and the world trade organization. And then many, many others signed by 59 countries. It's called the i-STAT report, 2,500 pages, over 400 scientists. And they dismissed GMOs as irrelevant to say they had nothing to do. And I interviewed the co chairman of this paper. It has nothing to do with creating sustainable agriculture, feeding the world or eliminating poverty, which were their goals. Nothing. They dismissed it completely.

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Speaker 3: (19:43)
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Speaker 3: (20:40)
Well, there are many ways that gene editing creates problems. In fact, one writer reviewing some of the things from a human embryo, cold it chromosomal, mayhem, such dramatic changes in the DNA, which could be a disaster. Now gene editing is cheap. It's easy. You can buy a gene editing kit, do it yourself from Amazon for under $200. Over a thousand dollars, you can build your own lab. And every day you can for the price of dinner, make a new genetically engineered microbe that has never existed before on the planet. And you can release. Now, we didn't need a pandemic to know that microbes, can you take travel and wreak havoc? The microbiome is critical for life. People know now that the gut bacteria and other microbes living inside us are intricately and intimately related to our health. In fact, they have co-evolved with us in a way that is mind boggling.

Speaker 3: (21:44)
And the second trimester bacteria go into the birth canal, that digest milk. Why? Because it inoculates the baby in the birth canal so that they can digest milk. A big portion of mother's milk is undigestible by the baby by design. It doesn't get broken down in the stomach. It doesn't get broken down in the small intestines it's food for the microbiome. If the baby needs something because of the particular condition, it'll change the microbiome on the saliva, which will communicate to the mother while they're breastfeeding. So there's this incredible micro jet army working on our behalf. And if the might, the microbiome is set well in infancy, it can help set a better health for the rest of that child's life and even future generations. So it is important. Now, one of the things that microbes do, which we may not realize is they have swap meets.

Speaker 3: (22:45)
They take genes and they share them with others, not just to the same type of bacteria, but many, many different types of microbes. So now you put in a gene that does something, because you think in this environment, it'll be healthy. And now it goes to all the ecosystems, including the human gut microbiome, and it starts swapping that gene with other microbes what's going to happen. And there's no recall there's no tracking. The microbiome is essential for the health of humans, but also for the environment, the soil microbiome is even more complex in our film. Don't let the gene out of the bottle. It's my fifth film, but it's also my shortest. It's just 16 minutes. It's available free online at protect nature. We show that a nearly released GMO bacteria in the early nineties could theoretically have ended terrestrial plant life on the planet.

Speaker 3: (23:45)
Another one could theoretically have altered weather patterns. And these were well-meaning releases. The first one was to just basically convert farmers stubble and crop residue to alcohol, but it turns out when they, they were going to spread the residue of this on the fields as fertilizer, when a graduate student happened to study that he found that the fields, or in this case, the blocks of plants that he was growing turned to slime because the bacteria was still active destroy the root system. And this was two weeks before they were going to release this bacterium in the environment to see how far it spread. Well, I interview in the film, Dr. Elaine Ingham, who was the graduate student's advisor at Oregon state university. And she said she was approached by members of the EPA who are whistleblowers. Who said, we can tell you how far genetically modified bacteria will travel, because we did a secret study with the EPA that has never been published.

Speaker 3: (24:46)
And we released the bacteria in a farm in Louisiana. And within a few years, it was all over the planet. I asked Elaine, what would be the, the logical result of releasing bacteria. It turns roots into alcohol, and she pointed out that that same natural bacteria that doesn't have that capacity is found in every root system on the planet. If that were to be replaced by the alcohol producing variety, it could basically render all terrestrial plant life dead. Now that's a cataclysm that you kind of stop and say, whoa, but when you realize that the microbiome has a trillion different types, and we've only characterized a small handful and the microbiome is so intelligent, it can make us want to eat a cupcake. If it does something that it likes. It'll, it'll inaugurate signals in the reward center in our brain, because it trains us fecal transplants, where you take the microbiome of one person and put it in another, they can cure disease, but they can also turn a person who's thin into a person who's overweight, because there was a programming.

Speaker 3: (25:58)
We off load. We delegate 90% of our daily functions to the microbiome. And we are in awe of its majesty and miraculous nature. And yet, if we don't stop it, there may be millions of genetically engineered microbes released on this planet in the next generation, destroying the nature of nature in a way that can't be reversed. So after 25 years of speaking about GMOs and Roundup and the dangers in 45 countries and testifying and introducing it to the medical world, and basically hoping an origami to whole movement has been successful because 51% of Americans now understand that GMOs are not safe for health. We're actually pivoting and focusing on educating basically humanity and the decision-makers that we need to create laws immediately to prevent the release of GMO microbes before they wreak havoc. And so our protect nature now, has the film. It has a advocacy platform where you enter your contact information and all of a sudden all your elected officials show up and it's a pre a pre-populated email message.

Speaker 3: (27:14)
You can customize it or send it as is in a single click. You can tweak them in a single click. Then all of a sudden, five of your local or regional media show up and in a single click, they get a press release. And so we're reaching out to thousands and thousands of, of elected officials and media around the world. I'll be going to Washington because we actually have now interest among Congress people. So if people would like to participate, they can go to protect nature. Now watch the film. Don't worry. We're going to, we're going to take care of their advocacy platform. And if you can, before you leave, please make a donation if possible, a recurring donation, because this is urgent and we are a nonprofit and we want to open up offices all over the world. We have over 60 organizations now as allies, but we need a lot more resources because we need to lock it down right away.

Speaker 2: (28:08)
Yeah. And honestly, I'm just so thrilled to have you on the show to expand that message even further, to get more mothers, especially involved because without, without the planet, our children have no future. I mean, obviously, um, but you've been working in this field for over 20 years, you know, I'm sure you've come up against a lot of opposition, you know, from a lot of powerful people. What keeps you going? You know, who inspires you when you just kind of want to throw it away, or you might even be afraid for your livelihood or your life?

Speaker 3: (28:36)
You know, there's a number of things. First of all, I've had people come up to me and it's hard for me to say this without feeling it over and over again, you know, they break down and say, you saved my family. And some people have like been to my lectures and read my books or seen one of my films and become activists. And now they're reaching out to mothers. And I remember going to Taiwan where my book was, seeds of deception was a national bestseller. And I ended up having two women, parliamentarians hold a hearing with me. And afterwards I said, based on what you've told us, we don't have the laws to protect our citizens. And soon after they banned GMO foods and school meals. So having had a footprint that I can look at and say, this is working. I mean, when I started out 25 years ago, I didn't know what a GMO was.

Speaker 3: (29:32)
No one did. And now 51% of Americans and 48% of the world's population believe that GMO foods are not safe. So I've seen success. Now, the other thing is that I've learned, my, one of my slogans is think huge thinking big is so last century, we have huge problems and we need huge solutions. So I did not mind taking on a responsibility saying I and others, but I will take responsibility for this issue. And others, of course, it's not me alone, but it's taking the responsibility. So when I saw gene editing, being deregulated around the world, so anyone can do it and release anything without any government oversight whatsoever. And that's the case in Australia and Argentina and Brazil, and almost completely like out of United States. And they want to get Canada, the EU or the UK the same way. And there's a big fiercely pitch battle right now by the biotech industry, giving false information.

Speaker 3: (30:32)
I realized no one had stepped up to protect nature because it was being replaced because with gene editing, you could target anything with DNA. And once you release it, you've corrupted the gene pool for as long as that species exists. And then I realized the microbes are the most dangerous, right? You change that. You change the hosts that they live in. You change the soil that they, that they breed health in. So I decided I'm an optimist, very strong optimist. And I also don't have any fear if I'm operating at this level, absolutely fearless, because I feel like there's a part of me. That's here to do this. And if I'm like hanging out low and looking at it, and there's a ceiling, there may be fear to get through that ceiling. But if I occupy that place in me, it's like, no problem. I got this.

Speaker 3: (31:25)
In fact, I, I encourage activists and others to get through their glass ceiling and occupy that place where they feel like this is their mission. And then they have access. It's like, that's where they vibrate with source. That's where they have the whispers from nature. That's where they have the, the beyond personal power, because that's really where they're connected and have the greatest power. So it's available. And right now with the way that earth is, it's now demanding for us not to put off those little whispers anymore, not to say, yeah, yeah, I'll get to it. Or, you know, I think I can do bigger, but I gotta be distracted. It's like, it's like the bells ringing now. And so, um, I'm very optimistic for the whole world and I'm seeing people step up and I'm seeing people take back their power. It's on the schools from the governments, from the business, from the media, which we've been trained to give away. And what's happening that you can't read in the media because it's not being reported in the mainstream media is an empowerment. That's enormous.

Speaker 2: (32:34)
Yeah. I love it. I love it so much. And I'm just, uh, I just love what you do. And I, I feel that that heavy weight too, of what we're all up against and it, it really just makes me angry, but that I think is a source of, of power and movement. So yeah. To wrap us all up today, um, what do you want the woman listening to this to remember from this talk?

Speaker 3: (33:00)
Actually, there's two things because one is for oneself and the family. And one is for the world. When I say eat organic, I mean, urgently, they, and th they injected some Roundup or glyphosate in a pregnant mouse and the kids were okay. The grandkids suffer. The great grandchildren suffered the worst. 90% of them had serious problems. They had death during birth. They had prostate problems and tumors and kidney problems. It's epigenetically transformed. So not to look back, never think, oh my God, what have I done? That's like wasted thinking. We didn't know. We made the decisions based on what we know. We're still making mistakes because we don't know everything, but we take the information that we have and we make choices. My experience influencing large numbers in terms of their dietary choices. I know that if people hear this and get inspired, it is critical to make a decision right now, not to put it off till tomorrow or next week, or when you have a discussion with friends or to make a commitment now to start it now, because the inspiration drops dramatically.

Speaker 3: (34:25)
And we forget that you think that we're going to be this inspired tomorrow. So whatever it is, it's, if it's going to the store now and buying organic, some people may have the money. They can get rid of stuff off the shelves and replace them, whatever it is, switching to organic now should be an urgent thing. And when you do take notes, write down how much percentage of organic you had each day on a spreadsheet, write down your energy level, write down every symptom that you have one to 10, and then for your family, because you don't know what's going to be affected. Is it going to be the eczema? Is it going to be the, the fatigue that at the end of the day, is it going to be irritability? You don't know, and you will forget unless you see it. So energy level and mood, cause it affects mood and behavior.

Speaker 3: (35:13)
That's one thing for oneself and one's family. Please just try it. And if you don't feel, you have the ability to say, this is not a new life, do it as an experiment, take a few weeks, ideally, and do it. And it may be that it's one of the most important experiments of your life. The second thing is, and this is about, we talked about stepping up and taking responsibility. I have seen around the world, the epidemic that has allowed GMOs to proliferate and the lies to proliferate is the thought that it's someone else's responsibility. And I'm sure they'll take care of it. I've interviewed so many members of governments around the world. And very often they'll say, oh, we don't have to review GMOs because you're FDA approved. And then I point out that the FDA doesn't approve GMOs. And I explained the policy that they let companies like Monsanto to determine if this ones are safe.

Speaker 3: (36:13)
And then I described the Monsanto research that we talked about, and then they'd realize they made a terrible mistake. Assuming that someone else was taking responsibility and we can all say, oh yeah, those governments should take responsibility, but I want to turn it right into us. Right now we have a responsibility to do something for our planet. I'm going to offer one avenue, go to a protect nature. Now watch the 16 minute movie and reach out to your members of Congress and your elected officials. If you can support us, please do see how it feels. Stepping up to take responsibility for protecting all living beings and all future generations, because that's, what's at stake. See how that feels because there's something that happens. It's more than just a momentary rush. It isn't empowerment. It's a shift in one's viewpoint and mothers understand the energy that pours into their family. And here's a way just to get a taste of protecting the world with energy. That's already been cultivated, huge power in mothers. So mothers can save the world. And so I'm giving one invitation and one way to help make that happen.

Speaker 2: (37:37)
Beautiful. Thank you so much, Jeffrey, all of the books and the film, and obviously protect nature will be in the show notes. Thank you so much for your time and thank you from the bottom of my heart, for the work.

Speaker 3: (37:49)
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